Three years of Boris Bikes: How do people use them?
By Dilla at 2013-08-17 11:32:53
London, UK
101 replies
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Maybe if they were on Oyster it would help. Also if they were more prevalent in zones 2 and 3, so people may possibly use them for local journeys in the region of where they live. If I'm in zone 1, I've perhaps had to get the bus or tube to where I was going anyway.
Maybe if they were on Oyster it would help. Also if they were more prevalent in zones 2 and 3, so people may possibly use them for local journeys in the region of where they live. If I'm in zone 1, I've perhaps had to get the bus or tube to where I was going anyway.
Oddly, I would say the literal opposite.
They are a bit of a pest for casual users -- markedly working out how to use the access codes if you are not comfortable with them.
But for standard users with an yearly pass they are brilliant for short hops round the place where you might have once used a bus or the tube.
Just take a look in the rush hour to see floods of commuters looking for one to end the mile of their journey connecting train station and office.
So it is now £2 for a day's membership instead of £1. And £90 for a year instead of £45. This happened approximately 6 months ago.
Maybe if they were on Oyster it would help. Also if they were more prevalent in zones 2 and 3, so people may possibly use them for local journeys in the region of where they live. If I'm in zone 1, I've perhaps had to get the bus or tube to where I was going anyway.
Oddly, I would say the literal opposite.
They are a bit of a pest for casual users -- markedly working out how to use the access codes if you are not comfortable with them.
But for standard users with an yearly pass they are brilliant for short hops round the place where you might have once used a bus or the tube.
Just take a look in the rush hour to see floods of commuters looking for one to end the mile of their journey connecting train station and office.
I think that's a enormous factor/benefit that never truly gets measured. Raising the appeal and awareness in cycling.
Wouldn't like to put it throughout the same test that moterbiker did on /r/wtf...
The bikes are also large and clunky and not easy to miss.
So something that cost £45 a year was in fact good value and you used it a lot, but something that costs £90 is now such dire value that you wont employ it at all.
That just doesn't make sense.
What you're trying to say, and what I concur with, is that there are awfully few people that would value the scheme *between* £45 and £90 a year. although that doesn't mean there are none.
Maybe if they were on Oyster it would help. Also if they were more prevalent in zones 2 and 3, so people may possibly use them for local journeys in the region of where they live. If I'm in zone 1, I've perhaps had to get the bus or tube to where I was going anyway.
Oddly, I would say the literal opposite.
They are a bit of a pest for casual users -- markedly working out how to use the access codes if you are not comfortable with them.
But for standard users with an yearly pass they are brilliant for short hops round the place where you might have once used a bus or the tube.
Just take a look in the rush hour to see floods of commuters looking for one to end the mile of their journey connecting train station and office.
So something that cost £45 a year was in fact good value and you used it a lot, but something that costs £90 is now such dire value that you wont employ it at all.
That just doesn't make sense.
If something costing £45 is great, then I would think the price point at which it is too pricey to use to be quite notably higher than £90.
If the price had gone to £300 per year, and somebody said that at £45 they used it a lot, except now the value for money characteristic means it is a inadequate service, then I would have nodded in agreement.
But for something to transition from fantastic at £45 to dire at £90 is too steep a curve for any market economist to accept.
Maybe if they were on Oyster it would help. Also if they were more prevalent in zones 2 and 3, so people may possibly use them for local journeys in the region of where they live. If I'm in zone 1, I've perhaps had to get the bus or tube to where I was going anyway.
Oddly, I would say the literal opposite.
They are a bit of a pest for casual users -- markedly working out how to use the access codes if you are not comfortable with them.
But for standard users with an yearly pass they are brilliant for short hops round the place where you might have once used a bus or the tube.
Just take a look in the rush hour to see floods of commuters looking for one to end the mile of their journey connecting train station and office.
So it is now £2 for a day's membership instead of £1. And £90 for a year instead of £45. This happened approximately 6 months ago.
Wouldn't like to put it throughout the same test that moterbiker did on /r/wtf...
One argument is that wearing/doing something that makes you feel safer will lead to more accidents as you become less worried about road safety.
Although the outcome is accepted, the degree it actually affects road safety is hotly contested.
The other issue is that requiring people to carry a cycle helmet around just in case they might want to hire a bike would almost certainly reduce useage, and then you have to calculate whether the overall health benefits for society is worth one or two dead cyclists.
Wouldn't like to put it throughout the same test that moterbiker did on /r/wtf...
One argument is that wearing/doing something that makes you feel safer will lead to more accidents as you become less worried about road safety.
Although the outcome is accepted, the degree it actually affects road safety is hotly contested.
The other issue is that requiring people to carry a cycle helmet around just in case they might want to hire a bike would almost certainly reduce useage, and then you have to calculate whether the overall health benefits for society is worth one or two dead cyclists.
Didn't work.